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J'espère que vous n'etes pas pressés ...

Bon par contre c'est pas sur que je le garde. Faut que je vois en fonction du bruit et de la température et surtout de la stabilité de l'ordi.

Au moindre plantage je le couperai.

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les opty chauffent pas mal LORD.

je plie moi meme avec un opty 185 et il chauffe un peu ( les opty chauffent plus que les Athlon )

pour le bruit ( et la temps aussi ), tout depends de ton RAD CPU et du ventilo que tu a dessus ( mais le RAD-BOX des opty est deja de bonne qualitee ).

quand a la stabilitee , normalement pas de problemes , a moins que tu ais OC ton CPU ( ça encaisse bien un opteron )

est installe un client SMP pour linux car ce serais dommage de ne plier que sur 1 seul core

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Bonjour,

 

Cobra j'ai remis la main sur le fahlog ou la machine a patinée.

 

 

Je ne vois rien qui indique le SSE, à aucun endroit. ni sur le premier démarrage, ni sur le deuxième.

 

C'est mes yeux ou quoi ? C'était pourtant indiqué sur le client 5.04 et sur mon client linux.

 

Cordialement, Focky.

 

(J'espère que j'ai réussi mon insertion de code ci-dessous, c'est ma première)

 

edit spéciale DK : comment je fait pour réduire mon code ? (comme toi avec les barres de défilement)

 

 

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--- Opening Log file [April 6 06:00:31 UTC] 


# Windows CPU Console Edition #################################################

###############################################################################



                       Folding@Home Client Version 6.23



                          http://folding.stanford.edu



###############################################################################

###############################################################################



Launch directory: D:\David\fold_6_core_1

Executable: D:\David\fold_6_core_1\[email protected]

Arguments: -local -verbosity 9 



[06:00:31] - Ask before connecting: No

[06:00:31] - Proxy: proxy.jcbouy.local:8080

[06:00:31] - User name: [Zebulon.fr]_focky (Team 51)

[06:00:31] - User ID: 1BF792B1641F1B74

[06:00:31] - Machine ID: 4

[06:00:31] 

[06:00:31] Loaded queue successfully.

[06:00:31] 

[06:00:31] - Autosending finished units... [April 6 06:00:31 UTC][06:00:31] + Processing work unit



[06:00:31] Core required: FahCore_78.exe

[06:00:31] Trying to send all finished work units

[06:00:31] + No unsent completed units remaining.

[06:00:31] - Autosend completed

[06:00:31] Core found.

[06:00:32] Working on queue slot 04 [April 6 06:00:32 UTC]

[06:00:32] + Working ...

[06:00:32] - Calling '.\FahCore_78.exe -dir work/ -suffix 04 -checkpoint 15 -verbose -lifeline 2808 -version 623'



[06:00:33] 

[06:00:33] *------------------------------*

[06:00:33] Folding@Home Gromacs Core

[06:00:33] Version 1.90 (March 8, 2006)

[06:00:33] 

[06:00:33] Preparing to commence simulation

[06:00:33] - Ensuring status. Please wait.

[06:00:54] - Looking at optimizations...

[06:00:54] - Working with standard loops on this execution.

[06:00:55] - Previous termination of core was improper.

[06:00:55] - Files status OK

[06:01:15] - Expanded 2208266 -> 15088765 (decompressed 683.2 percent)

[06:01:19] 

[06:01:19] Project: 2494 (Run 50, Clone 20, Gen 0)

[06:01:19] 

[06:01:21] Entering M.D.

[06:01:52] (Starting from checkpoint)

[06:01:53] Protein: system

[06:01:53] 

[06:01:54] Writing local files

[06:01:54] Completed 62895 out of 250000 steps  (25%)

[06:17:47] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[06:32:51] Timered checkpoint triggered.

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[09:37:05] Writing local files

[09:37:06] Completed 65000 out of 250000 steps  (26%)

[09:52:09] Timered checkpoint triggered.

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[11:54:14] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[12:02:08] - Autosending finished units... [April 6 12:02:08 UTC]

[12:02:08] Trying to send all finished work units

[12:02:08] + No unsent completed units remaining.

[12:02:08] - Autosend completed

[12:09:18] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[12:24:23] Timered checkpoint triggered.

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[14:39:52] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[14:40:51] Writing local files

[14:40:51] Completed 67500 out of 250000 steps  (27%)

[14:55:53] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[15:11:00] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[15:26:13] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[15:41:20] Timered checkpoint triggered.

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[17:57:18] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[18:02:08] - Autosending finished units... [April 6 18:02:08 UTC]

[18:02:08] Trying to send all finished work units

[18:02:08] + No unsent completed units remaining.

[18:02:08] - Autosend completed

[18:12:29] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[18:27:35] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[18:42:38] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[18:57:42] Timered checkpoint triggered.

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[20:28:27] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[20:43:32] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[20:45:18] Writing local files

[20:45:19] Completed 70000 out of 250000 steps  (28%)

[21:00:20] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[21:15:24] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[21:30:29] Timered checkpoint triggered.

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[23:46:05] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[00:02:04] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[00:02:08] - Autosending finished units... [April 7 00:02:08 UTC]

[00:02:08] Trying to send all finished work units

[00:02:08] + No unsent completed units remaining.

[00:02:08] - Autosend completed

[00:17:07] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[00:32:08] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[00:47:14] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[00:48:37] Writing local files

[00:48:37] Completed 72500 out of 250000 steps  (29%)

[01:03:40] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[01:18:43] Timered checkpoint triggered.

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[04:51:30] Writing local files

[04:51:30] Completed 75000 out of 250000 steps  (30%)

[05:06:37] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[05:21:40] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[05:36:42] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[05:51:50] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[06:02:08] - Autosending finished units... [April 7 06:02:08 UTC]

[06:02:08] Trying to send all finished work units

[06:02:08] + No unsent completed units remaining.

[06:02:08] - Autosend completed

[06:06:57] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[06:22:00] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[06:37:05] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[06:52:08] Timered checkpoint triggered.

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[08:37:29] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[08:52:30] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[08:58:03] Writing local files

[08:58:04] Completed 77500 out of 250000 steps  (31%)

[09:13:09] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[09:28:10] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[09:43:16] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[09:58:19] Timered checkpoint triggered.

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[11:59:05] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[12:02:08] - Autosending finished units... [April 7 12:02:08 UTC]

[12:02:08] Trying to send all finished work units

[12:02:08] + No unsent completed units remaining.

[12:02:08] - Autosend completed

[12:14:10] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[12:29:12] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[12:44:18] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[12:59:11] Writing local files

[12:59:12] Completed 80000 out of 250000 steps  (32%)

[13:14:17] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[13:29:21] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[13:44:25] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[13:59:29] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[14:14:33] Timered checkpoint triggered.

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[16:46:05] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[17:01:10] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[17:16:14] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[17:19:19] Writing local files

[17:19:19] Completed 82500 out of 250000 steps  (33%)

[17:34:23] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[17:49:26] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[18:02:08] - Autosending finished units... [April 7 18:02:08 UTC]

[18:02:08] Trying to send all finished work units

[18:02:08] + No unsent completed units remaining.

[18:02:08] - Autosend completed

[18:05:27] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[18:20:31] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[18:35:36] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[18:50:39] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[19:05:43] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[19:20:46] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[19:35:49] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[19:50:54] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[20:05:57] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[20:21:01] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[20:36:04] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[20:51:08] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[20:58:15] Writing local files

[20:58:15] Completed 85000 out of 250000 steps  (34%)

[21:13:18] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[21:28:21] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[21:44:22] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[21:59:26] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[22:14:28] Timered checkpoint triggered.

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[23:14:44] Timered checkpoint triggered.

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[23:44:52] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[23:59:55] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[00:02:08] - Autosending finished units... [April 8 00:02:08 UTC]

[00:02:08] Trying to send all finished work units

[00:02:08] + No unsent completed units remaining.

[00:02:08] - Autosend completed

[00:14:59] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[00:30:02] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[00:37:14] Writing local files

[00:37:15] Completed 87500 out of 250000 steps  (35%)

[00:52:16] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[01:07:20] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[01:23:22] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[01:38:25] Timered checkpoint triggered.

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[02:08:34] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[02:23:37] Timered checkpoint triggered.

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[03:23:52] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[03:38:55] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[03:53:59] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[04:09:02] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[04:16:14] Writing local files

[04:16:15] Completed 90000 out of 250000 steps  (36%)

[04:31:18] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[04:46:22] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[05:02:23] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[05:17:27] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[05:32:32] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[05:47:38] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[05:51:13] ***** Got a SIGTERM signal (2)

[05:51:13] Killing all core threads



Folding@Home Client Shutdown.

[05:51:13] 



--- Opening Log file [April 8 05:53:12 UTC] 





# Windows CPU Console Edition #################################################

###############################################################################



                       Folding@Home Client Version 6.23



                          http://folding.stanford.edu



###############################################################################

###############################################################################



Launch directory: D:\David\fold_6_core_1

Executable: D:\David\fold_6_core_1\[email protected]

Arguments: -local -verbosity 9 



[05:53:12] - Ask before connecting: No

[05:53:12] - Proxy: proxy.jcbouy.local:8080

[05:53:12] - User name: [Zebulon.fr]_focky (Team 51)

[05:53:12] - User ID: 1BF792B1641F1B74

[05:53:12] - Machine ID: 4

[05:53:12] 

[05:53:12] Loaded queue successfully.

[05:53:12] 

[05:53:12] - Autosending finished units... [April 8 05:53:12 UTC]

[05:53:12] + Processing work unit

[05:53:12] Trying to send all finished work units

[05:53:12] Core required: FahCore_78.exe

[05:53:12] + No unsent completed units remaining.

[05:53:12] - Autosend completed

[05:53:12] Core found.

[05:53:12] Working on queue slot 04 [April 8 05:53:12 UTC]

[05:53:12] + Working ...

[05:53:12] - Calling '.\FahCore_78.exe -dir work/ -suffix 04 -checkpoint 15 -verbose -lifeline 3932 -version 623'



[05:53:13] 

[05:53:13] *------------------------------*

[05:53:13] Folding@Home Gromacs Core

[05:53:13] Version 1.90 (March 8, 2006)

[05:53:13] 

[05:53:13] Preparing to commence simulation

[05:53:13] - Looking at optimizations...

[05:53:14] - Files status OK

[05:53:27] - Expanded 2208266 -> 15088765 (decompressed 683.2 percent)

[05:53:29] 

[05:53:29] Project: 2494 (Run 50, Clone 20, Gen 0)

[05:53:29] 

[05:53:33] Assembly optimizations on if available.

[05:53:33] Entering M.D.

[05:54:05] (Starting from checkpoint)

[05:54:05] Protein: system

[05:54:05] 

[05:54:05] Writing local files

[05:54:05] Completed 91041 out of 250000 steps  (36%)

[05:54:16] Extra SSE boost OK.

[06:10:06] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[06:25:08] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[06:40:09] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[06:55:01] Writing local files

[06:55:02] Completed 92500 out of 250000 steps  (37%)

[07:10:05] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[07:25:07] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[07:40:10] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[07:55:10] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[08:10:12] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[08:25:16] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[08:37:19] Writing local files

[08:37:20] Completed 95000 out of 250000 steps  (38%)

[08:52:21] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[09:07:24] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[09:22:27] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[09:37:28] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[09:52:29] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[10:07:30] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[10:17:57] Writing local files

[10:17:57] Completed 97500 out of 250000 steps  (39%)

[10:32:59] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[10:48:00] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[11:03:01] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[11:18:03] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[11:33:05] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[11:48:08] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[11:54:55] - Autosending finished units... [April 8 11:54:55 UTC]

[11:54:55] Trying to send all finished work units

[11:54:55] + No unsent completed units remaining.

[11:54:55] - Autosend completed

[11:59:08] Writing local files

[11:59:09] Completed 100000 out of 250000 steps  (40%)

[12:14:10] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[12:29:12] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[12:44:12] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[12:59:15] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[13:14:17] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[13:29:19] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[13:41:58] Writing local files

[13:41:59] Completed 102500 out of 250000 steps  (41%)

[13:57:01] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[14:12:03] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[14:28:02] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[14:43:05] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[14:58:06] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[15:13:10] Timered checkpoint triggered.

[15:26:09] Writing local files

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Focky, merci de m'avoir répondu car ma question n'était pas innocente et j'avais bien raison de la poser. Car on lit par-ci par-là des choses contradictoires et je voulais m'assurer de la bonne utilisation du paramètre -forceasm (ça m'est utile pour mon travail sur les paramètres : http://forum.zebulon.fr/index.php?s=&s...&p=1371707)

 

Donc, pour ton client V6, à un moment donné, le programme a bien désactivé les optimisations.

 

Et il te les a bien remises à la relance du client :

 

[05:54:05] Completed 91041 out of 250000 steps (36%)

[05:54:16] Extra SSE boost OK.

 

Je vais donc corriger ce que j'ai dit dans mon tuto, en précisant que le paramètre -forceasm est toujours usité pour les clients V6 (à moins que ce soit un bug exceptionnel ? ? ?).

 

Edité : je vois que tu utilises le paramètre -local pour ton client V6. A priori, il n'est plus utile pour ces versions, mais si ça te rassure, tu peux le laisser, tant que c'est accepté. Il faudrait que je vérifie tous mes tutos si j'en ai pas encore laissé trainer car, si je me souviens bien, c'était encore utile pour les toutes premières versions du V6.

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Bien le bonjour à tous les habitants de ton île (j'en connais),

Avec exactement le même client j'ai essayé le paramètre -forceasm mais j'ai eu deux jours de suite à chaque démarrage une fin prématurée des mes deux wus (sur un dual core). J'ai effacé les rep work... et je suis reparti à chaque fois avec les même wu.

 

Le troisième jour j'ai enlevé le paramètre -forceasm et j'ai réussi à finir mes deux wus sans aucun problème avec plusieurs re-démarrages des clients. Depuis plus question de -forceasm. :P

 

Pour le bug exceptionnel, peut être mais je crois que c'est la deuxième fois que ça m'arrive (sur mon P4 3Ghz en Hyperthreading seulement). C'est peut être dut au démarrage des clients en simultanée ? qui ne veulent pas se partager le SSE ? :P

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J'ai utilisé pendant longtemps -forceasm et je n'ai pas rencontré de problème particulier lié à ça. Depuis un moment déjà, je ne m'en sers plus car, même sans le mettre, je n'ai jamais remarqué de désactivation des optimisations faisant suite à une EUE, les nouveaux clients sachant en général se rattraper tout seul.

 

Mais il me semble avoir entendu parler de soucis avec certains anciens processeurs ne disposant pas de certaines optimisations prévues avec les nouveaux clients :P

 

En définitive, c'est ton expérience personnelle qui finit par primer sur tout ce que tu peux lire, même venant de moi :P

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edit spéciale DK : comment je fait pour réduire mon code ? (comme toi avec les barres de défilement)
Je regarde ça, et j'édite ici dès que j'ai posé mon journal tardif, qui cause du Serpent ce matin (pour une fois).

edit : Essaye avec des balises codebox au lieu de code : remplace au début ton [code] par [codebox], et à la fin [/code] par [/codebox], ça devrait mettre des ascenseurs.

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